You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
Nice that there is no additional fee, and frankly, I dont have alot of slabs but I got a few locks in NGC that would get + IMO, I dont think I currently I have any PCGS + shots.....I like it
<< <i>The question is: which will sell for more NGC+ or PCGS non + >>
NGC +,more times than not would be my guess.............. >>
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Eye appeal is subjective so thats meaningless and they cant grade coins consistently in the current grades they alreay have so they are adding more grades? Huh?
<< <i>Eye appeal is subjective so thats meaningless and they cant grade coins consistently in the current grades they alreay have so they are adding more grades? Huh? >>
Do you feel differently about PCGS using the "+" designation?
<< <i>At least PCGS includes the secure plus program which does have value. >>
But that has nothing to do with your comment "and they cant grade coins consistently in the current grades they alreay have so they are adding more grades? Huh?". So, I will ask again, do you feel differently about PCGS using the "+" designation?
Well PCGS I do feel is more consistent than NGC. And since the plus service is quite costly it should only be used for expensive coins with large price spreads between grades so it does have merit. I cant figure out however how someone could get a plus on say a late date lincoln with only 5 or 10 bucks between grades though. Who would submit that coin?
<< <i>And the beat goes on.... wonder what the next 'grade enhancement' will be - and who will introduce it. Should run a pool on this one. Cheers, RickO >>
I bet someone does a +/+ so both obverse and reverse are eligible for pluses........... I want my cut when it happens
It is my understanding that PCGS and NGC worked together coming up with the Plus Grading. NGC waited for the unveiling to discuss the concept with their dealer network and collector members.
<< <i>Eye appeal is subjective so thats meaningless and they cant grade coins consistently in the current grades they alreay have so they are adding more grades? Huh? >>
Do you feel differently about PCGS using the "+" designation? >>
I do!!
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
<< <i>No additional fee for the service. Now that's thinking! >>
Of course it's free, how else could they bombard the market with their product? Brace yourselves people for tons of MS66+ and MS67+'s! Here they come! They know there's a window of opportunity for this stuff, why not financially gain from it before everyone catches on and the hype dies out. They know that they can't compete with PCGS's $65 tier. I'll even bet that their plus will be bigger than PCGS's plus.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
Ah, leo, at least YOU have been nothing but consistent with your posts and tone.....
For me, the NGC+ is fine...if I agree with the coin and grade, I have no problems. For PCGS, I also have no problems. If their cost difference is to make up for all the coins that use the service getting scanned and databased, then that is a cost. They have to recoup their costs somehow. I don't believe NGC does the same type of scanning, right? So they have no additional cost there. Nor did they spend money and resources investigating this....their program is just a program change. There should NOT be any additional fees (and there aren't).
It's a good marketing ploy for NGC. They had to do something. And it is easy. No extra work or cost. Of course it does nothing to thwart coin doctors or combat grade-flation.
I'm curious to see if NGC is as tight with pluses as PCGS. I think they have to be for the program to be meaningful.
Interesting that NGC will plus MS60 & 61.
Will there come a time when PCGS offers plus grading without the overhead of laser scanning and the database? I.e., just like NGC...no extra cost, no extra services or protection, available for most every grading service? Or is the next step likely to be scanning and plusing for more grading tiers at higher cost? Lance.
Unintended consequences is right on target.....the more that folks try to delineate grades......stars, pluses, etc. on what is clearly and fundamentally an opinion to begin with, the more that I think simpler is better.
submitted to NGC under applicable grading tiers including Economy, Early Bird, Gold Rush, Specialty Gold, Express and WalkThrough tiers are automatically examined for during grading, and there is no additional fee or special service request.
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Camelot
<< <i>Time to change my website again...
Quick, run out and buy all the 'choice for the grade' coins in older NGC holders.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>Why not? Imitation is the greatest form of compliment. >>
CAC should change it's stickers to green and gold plus's and green and gold stars - kinda like what I got on my homework in first grade!
but I got a few locks in NGC that would get + IMO, I dont think I currently
I have any PCGS + shots.....I like it
<< <i>No additional fee for the service. Now thats thinking! >>
+1
<< <i>The question is: which will sell for more NGC+ or PCGS non +
NGC +,more times than not would be my guess..............
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<< <i>The question is: which will sell for more NGC+ or PCGS non +
NGC +,more times than not would be my guess.............. >>
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Eye appeal is subjective so thats meaningless and they cant grade coins consistently in the current grades they alreay have so they are adding more grades? Huh? >>
Do you feel differently about PCGS using the "+" designation?
<< <i>At least PCGS includes the secure plus program which does have value. >>
But that has nothing to do with your comment "and they cant grade coins consistently in the current grades they alreay have so they are adding more grades? Huh?". So, I will ask again, do you feel differently about PCGS using the "+" designation?
<< <i>And the beat goes on.... wonder what the next 'grade enhancement' will be - and who will introduce it. Should run a pool on this one. Cheers, RickO >>
I bet someone does a +/+ so both obverse and reverse are eligible for pluses........... I want my cut when it happens
PCGS better be worried.
-Paul
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<< <i>Eye appeal is subjective so thats meaningless and they cant grade coins consistently in the current grades they alreay have so they are adding more grades? Huh? >>
Do you feel differently about PCGS using the "+" designation? >>
I do!!
<< <i>No additional fee for the service. Now that's thinking! >>
Of course it's free, how else could they bombard the market with their product? Brace yourselves people for tons of MS66+ and MS67+'s! Here they come! They know there's a window of opportunity for this stuff, why not financially gain from it before everyone catches on and the hype dies out. They know that they can't compete with PCGS's $65 tier.
I'll even bet that their plus will be bigger than PCGS's plus.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
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For me, the NGC+ is fine...if I agree with the coin and grade, I have no problems. For PCGS, I also have no problems. If their cost difference is to make up for all the coins that use the service getting scanned and databased, then that is a cost. They have to recoup their costs somehow. I don't believe NGC does the same type of scanning, right? So they have no additional cost there. Nor did they spend money and resources investigating this....their program is just a program change. There should NOT be any additional fees (and there aren't).
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
roadrunner
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CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
will they have plus and keeps stars?
what was their stars anyway, exceptional eye appeal?
so now top for grade and exceptional eye appeal, thats what I want - but not willing to stretch too much for them
I'm curious to see if NGC is as tight with pluses as PCGS. I think they have to be for the program to be meaningful.
Interesting that NGC will plus MS60 & 61.
Will there come a time when PCGS offers plus grading without the overhead of laser scanning and the database? I.e., just like NGC...no extra cost, no extra services or protection, available for most every grading service? Or is the next step likely to be scanning and plusing for more grading tiers at higher cost?
Lance.
i get the feeling that these are the types of actions that result in unintended
consequences for all.
keoj
<< <i>Is it possible to get a plus and a star? (and a sticker?)
How about a plus and TWO stars!
JH
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<< <i>is here.
My apologies if this has already been posted.
Is it possible to get a plus and a star? (and a sticker?)
then a "you suck"
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<< <i>The question is: which will sell for more NGC+ or PCGS non +
NGC +,more times than not would be my guess.............. >>
......that would be an incorrect guess
submitted to NGC under applicable grading tiers including Economy, Early Bird, Gold Rush, Specialty Gold, Express and WalkThrough tiers are automatically examined for during grading, and there is no additional fee or special service request.
Hoard the keys.
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<< <i>The question is: which will sell for more NGC+ or PCGS non +